JOE MONTAGUE talks to Skillet’s John Cooper about the group’s latest album, Comatose…
The words to John Cooper’s song Those Nights aren’t mere rhetoric. Cooper, from American rock band Skillet, drew on his personal experience when penning the song for the group’s latest album, Comatose.
“While I was growing up my mom died when I was 14,” he says. “I got into this terrible home life situation with my dad and (for a period) of four years it was either me yelling at him or him yelling at me…My dad got remarried two months after my mother died and my step mother’s husband had died about two months before my mom so both of them were dealing with very recent deaths of their spouses. They had three kids and we had three kids. It was a bad situation. I hated living there and I hated life.”
A NEW AWAKENING: Skillet are Korey Cooper, Ben Kasica, John Cooper and Lori Peters.
“The whole Comatose idea came out of the notion that we have been sleeping,” says John Cooper of Skillet. “We have not been reaching people for Jesus but we have been trying to create a bunch of people that look and act just like us. So much of the time we are not really concerned about caring for people who are hurting.”
There were a few things that provided hope for the young Cooper. One was his faith in Christ – “I was a Christian and I knew that God loved me.” The second was looking forward to spending weekend sleepovers with a close friend.
“We did everything together and we would laugh all night long. It was the one thing I lived for,” he says before singing lines from the song: ‘Stay up late and we’d talk all night; in a dark room lit by the TV light; through all the hard times in my life; those nights kept me alive.”
Cooper says that friendship “made all the junk worth fighting for”. “That is why I decided to write this song (Those Nights) because there are so many people who are going to identify with that. You certainly don’t have to be a Christian to identify with Those Nights.”
Some people when they talk about songwriting will tell you about a formula for success. Others are philosophical about a missive they want to deliver to the world. Then there are those who are more commercial and speculate about whether a certain hook will catch the ear of the public. Most are sincere and are just taking different roads to get to the same goal.
The longer one speaks to Cooper, however, the more one realises this is a man who talks about matters of the heart. Sure, Skillet play fabulous rock tunes and Cooper is an accomplished writer but what the songs Those Nights, Rebirthing (the first single released), and Looking For Angels do is allow you for a brief moment to step into his life. They are his life experiences.
“The whole Comatose idea came out of the notion that we have been sleeping,” he says. “We have not been reaching people for Jesus but we have been trying to create a bunch of people that look and act just like us. So much of the time we are not really concerned about caring for people who are hurting.”
The song Looking For Angels uses Cooper’s life as a canvas and several events that collided as the brush strokes. The colors to this painting began to emerge three months after the 2004 release of Collide. Since that time the lead vocalist and primary songwriter for Skillet has been on a life transforming journey.
“The original intent of Comatose (the album) was us waking up. It is kind of like The Matrix, maybe we are just sleeping through this life and it is time that we wake up and do some good on earth. We wake up and ask God, ‘What is it that you want us to do here?’.”
The second thing that altered how Cooper looked at his Christian experience was when the band decided to perform and record crossover music for the general market.
“We went on a tour with Saliva which was the first mainstream club scene we ever did. I would say that tour was a real landmark. I had never been to a bar in my whole life; never lived in that kind of environment or world. All of a sudden I was placed in a situation where I was singing to people night after night who came to the concerts. Some of their lives looked empty and it was a very sad experience for me.”
“All of a sudden I realised that as Christians we are not doing what we should be doing to reach hurting people and give the hopeless hope. We do what we do day after day in our churches and wait to see who comes to us so we can put them into some kind of program.”
“All of a sudden I realised that as Christians we are not doing what we should be doing to reach hurting people and give the hopeless hope. We do what we do day after day in our churches and wait to see who comes to us so we can put them into some kind of program.”
Yet another eye-opener for Cooper was his discovery of the perception a lot of non Christians held of Christianity.
“They would say, ‘I don’t understand how you can say you are a Christian and yet you are playing rock music. (Others) would say, ‘Now you are going to tell me that I am going to go to hell because I am drinking a beer,” he says. “I realised that Christianity in America looks so different than Jesus. It began a whole life changing time for me.”
Cooper relates how Mandy Moore’s movie Saved first caused him to laugh and then ponder more seriously whether the spoof about Christianity he had just seen was really that far-fetched. To underline his point, he draws from the movie Forrest Gump.
“Do you remember the part in the movie Forrest Gump when Lieutenant Dan asks Forrest if he found Jesus and Forrest says: ‘I didn’t know I was supposed to be looking for Him?’ People don’t know what we are talking about in Christianity much of the time.”
Cooper says Ron Luce’s book Battle Cry For A Generation also caused him to think differently.
“I went into reading the book thinking I see young people 150 times each year and I know where they are at. I just felt that I was supposed to read it,” he says. What surprised him was the high incidence of teen suicides and cutting.
In that regard, Cooper describes Comatose as a “spiritual awakening”.
“It was a time for me to wakeup and say we need to talk about things that people are going through. We need to be there for people who may look like they are not worth loving because that is what Jesus did.”
“I feel the song Looking For Angels is the most important and relevant song that I have ever written. It encompasses what my message is right now. With all the terrible things that are going on in the world you can make a difference if you want to. You can be there for someone and you can be Jesus for someone who needs to experience that. You can be hope to someone who doesn’t have any hope.”
“It’s a little bit preachy but all I’m trying to say is you can make a difference in this world for chump change, giving a little bit of your time or a little bit of your money. (In doing so) you become a savior to someone.”
Cooper says it was out of this personal perspective that the words of Looking For Angels took flight. He repeats the lyrics:
“I became a savior to some kids I’ll never meet
Sent a check in the mail to buy them something to eat
What will you do to make a difference, to make a change?
What will you do to help someone along the way?
Just a touch, a smile as you turn the other cheek
Pray for your enemies, humble yourself, love’s staring back at me
In the midst of the most painful faces
Angels show up in the strangest of places”
“It’s a little bit preachy but all I’m trying to say is you can make a difference in this world for chump change, giving a little bit of your time or a little bit of your money. (In doing so) you become a savior to someone.”
Cooper, his wife Korey Cooper (string arrangements and keyboards), Ben Kasica (guitar) and Lori Peters (drums) have created more of a melodic pop sound with Comatose than was present on Collide. Cooper credits producer and co-writer Brian Howes with providing much of the direction for the CD.
John Cooper has come a long way from what he describes as the “very tight, stiff church” he grew up in. He says it wasn’t until a friend invited him to a church where for the first time he witnessed a pipe organ being replaced by acoustic guitars, a band and Congo drums that Skillet’s lead vocalist realised there could be more freedom in worshipping God.
“The people were jumping up and down. It was like being at a concert. It was at that moment that I decided there was so much about this that made sense to me in my heart. I was thinking, ‘I don’t know why everybody is doing this but I want it too.’ It was at that moment that my life changed.”
Cooper adds that “there is intimacy when you give everything you have to worshipping God” and that he doesn’t think that has anything to do with the style of music.
“Comatose as a concept is meant to challenge people to invest in the relationships around them,” he says.
Skillet’s new album, Comatose, was released 3rd October.
